WikiSuite | Why Cyrus IMAP and Cypht

As of 2020-01-08, this page is incomplete

Mail functionality in WikiSuite is handled as follows:

Cyrus IMAP which is a ClearOS app
Cypht, a webmail client which is integrated in Tiki Wiki CMS Groupware (starting in Tiki20)
SabreDAV for CalDAV and CardDAV support.

Please see general component criteria and the other Software Components for WikiSuite.

Why Cyrus IMAP and Cypht instead of the many options in this space? Very good question. One important reason: JMAP!

Why Cyrus IMAP

The de facto mail system in ClearOS
JMAP support
Very active development
Fantastic community and leadership, and weekly community meetings
Longevity: started in 1993!

Why Cypht

Written in PHP
Jason Munro, the Lead developer, is doing a fantastic job with the project
Available on Packagist
Lots of features
Added JMAP support

Why not Roundcube

Roundcube is a fantastic webmail and we used as part of Kolab
No JMAP: https://github.com/roundcube/roundcubemail/issues/5918
While it's in PHP, there is no way to get via Composer/Packagist: https://github.com/roundcube/roundcubemail/issues/5938

Why not Kolab

Kolab is a great standalone mail stack suite. Kolab was the mail stack component in WikiSuite for the first few years, but it was too much work to integrate tightly and thus, it stayed quite standalone from the rest of WikiSuite. So we moved to a more tightly integrated solution.
Kolab uses Roundcube, which doesn't support JMAP

Why not Apache James

Apache James supports JMAP so it could have worked, but it would be too much work to integrate nicely with ClearOS. WikiSuite congratulates and thanks the Apache James project for their support of the JMAP standard.

Why not SOGo

SOGo is a very interesting solution, and was a strong candidate. However, no JMAP support, and it would have not been as tightly integrated as the chosen solution. SOGo is written in Objective-C (vs Cypht in PHP)

Why not Dovecot

No support for JMAP

Why not Zimbra

Zimbra is partially Open Source: https://www.zimbra.com/legal/licensing/
The Zeta Alliance is trying to improve this: https://zetalliance.org/the-zeta-alliance-charter/, a bit like like situation with the OCA with Odoo
- https://lists.zetalliance.org/pipermail/devel_lists.zetalliance.org/2019-November/thread.html
- https://lists.zetalliance.org/pipermail/devel_lists.zetalliance.org/2019-December/thread.html
As of 2020-01, no support for JMAP: https://jmap.io/software.html#servers
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zimbra 5 owners in 14 years is a little worrisome

Why not Bluemind

Why not Zarafa / Kopano

Why not Horde

Horde is a fully Open Source solution that has been around for a long time. And goes beyond just email with many other apps, including a wiki. And it works with Cyrus IMAP. This is a good solution. However, in the context of WikiSuite, we'll end up with a more integrated solution on our chosen path.

As of 2020-01, no support for JMAP: https://jmap.io/software.html#servers

Why not EGroupware

Why not Group Office

It supports JMAP. Congrats!
But not fully Open Source. Features are split between the Open Source Community edition and the proprietary Professional editions, along with Separate Add-ons
https://www.group-office.com/

Why not SquirrelMail

SquirrelMail was a popular webmail a while back, but it hasn't kept up with the times.

Why not OBM

The team behind OBM has stopped developing it, and are focused on Apache James and OpenPaaS

Why not Thunderbird

Thunderbird is a desktop application. It can be used with WikiSuite by connecting via IMAP. However, we need a web-based solution as the main solution.

Why not Claws Mail

Claws Mail is a desktop application. It can be used with WikiSuite by connecting via IMAP. However, we need a web-based solution as the main solution.

Why not Gmail

Not Open Source
https://mako.cc/copyrighteous/google-has-most-of-my-email-because-it-has-all-of-yours

Why not Office 365

Not Open Source

(to do: add all the other options)

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